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Alberic Barbier

Irregularly shaped double blooms open cream from apricot and yellow buds and then fade to gardenia white. Perhaps the most famous, and certainly the hardiest, of the wonderful Wichurana Ramblers. We have this rose going up in a tall Doug Fir where it receives just a bit of dappled sun. Blooms are more sparse in such a situation, but the effect, of party lanterns arrayed along the branches, is enchanting. In a sunny situation there is a massive display of bloom over an extended period in the spring with occasional individual blooms later in the season. The lax habit would make great ground cover on an embankment, etc. The dark green glossy foliage with slender, crimson new growth is evergreen in our Zone 8 gardens and always handsome.

Name: Alberic Barbier Class: Rambler Height: 20+ feet Growth: Lax, trailing Color: White, Near White and White Blend Bloom size: 3"	Zone: Zone 6 Bloom type: Fully Double Rebloom: r Fragrance: fff Hybridizer: Barbier Year introduced: 1900
Disease Resistant: Very Disease Resistant Shade Tolerance: Shade Tolerant Difficult Locations: Good for difficult locations Ground Cover: Good for ground cover

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Posted by rjlinva 7 (My Page) on Thu, May 24, 07 at 7:38

The rose books rave about this rose...and EVERYTHING they say about it is absolutely true. I've got four of them, and I could never tire of it. Create a spot for him, he's incredible.

Robert

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Posted by williamcartwright Z10 SoCal (My Page) on Thu, May 24, 07 at 13:10

What fortuitous luck!!!

I have an Alberic Barbier band due in the post today (or tomorrow).

At this point my mind is split on how I should use this rose, so your input is more than welcome.

One thought is to highly train and prune the rose on swags of chain ("festoons") as described by Stephen Scanniello in this book "A Year of Roses".

The other thought is let it go as "wild" and rambling as possible. Along one of my property lines I've made a "rose wall", where I've taken redwood 4x4s (17ft above ground) cross braced them with 2X4s and the run wire across. These hold 2 Cecile Brunner Climbers.

I am going to make more "rose wall" structures on our other property line, and I'm wondering if an Alberic Barbier would work in this fashion? In the Public gardens I've seen him in, he's never been left to get "natural sized".

And I'm not sure about the "lax canes" which make it so good for uses like "festooning". The Cecile Brunner builds up a lot of strong wood and is rather self supporting, so having an esentially "open" structure...with 12 ft of wire running in 12 inch increments works very well. Do you think Alberic Barbier would respond to this kind of treatment, or would it require more support?

Lastly, left more or less unclipped, will Alberic Barbier get really full? Ideally this "rose wall" would provise a near total screen from our neighbor's home.

A bombardment of questions for sure. But I know of no one growing one Alberic Barbier, much less four.

Appreciate any feedback,

Bill

Posted by melissa_thefarm NItaly (My Page) on Tue, May 29, 07 at 16:45

I'm with everyone else (except Patrick): an utterly beautiful, wonderful rose. It's extremely easy to root from cuttings, by the way, and grows fine on its own roots. We have two growing into trees on the edge of woods. In the shade the flowers seem to be looser and almost translucent, and are--can such a thing be?--even lovelier than when the rose is growing in full sun; and the foliage of the trees shows in greenish tints in the flowers. 'Alberic Barbier' is a once bloomer, but last year my neighbor's rose, that I gave her and she planted on the low fence enclosing her vegetable garden, got fooled by good feeding and a non-existent fall into a full second flush.

I'm glad you like your roses, Robert. If you decide to live in Italy one day come and pick up some cuttings.

Melissa

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